Reference:5517 - Revision history

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	The market runs on batch identity, completeness of military documentation, and physical condition. Third-batch sword examples in full-spec condition with documented provenance, the service number on the caseback, the matching inside number, and an original T SWISS T dial in an unpolished case sit at the top of the MilSub market.		The market runs on batch identity, completeness of military documentation, and physical condition. Third-batch sword examples in full-spec condition with documented provenance, the service number on the caseback, the matching inside number, and an original T SWISS T dial in an unpolished case sit at the top of the MilSub market.

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			== Related references ==

			The 5517 is the dedicated Submariner of the [[Reference:milsub\|MilSub]] program, used in the third Royal Navy batch after the first two ran on 5513 cases. It sits inside the [[Reference:submariner-5xxx-family\|5xxx Submariner family]] with the chronometer 5512, the long-run civilian 5513, and the COMEX 5514.

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	* [https://www.bonhams.com/auction/24632/lot/90/ Rolex Submariner Ref. 5513/5517 Military — Bonhams 2018 lot 90] (Bonhams, 2018)		* [https://www.bonhams.com/auction/24632/lot/90/ Rolex Submariner Ref. 5513/5517 Military — Bonhams 2018 lot 90] (Bonhams, 2018)
	* ''The Vintage Rolex Field Manual'' — Colin A. White, Morning Tundra		* ''The Vintage Rolex Field Manual'' — Colin A. White, Morning Tundra

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	~~== Related references ==~~

	The 5517 is the dedicated Submariner of the [[Reference:milsub\|MilSub]] program, used in the third Royal Navy batch after the first two ran on 5513 cases. It sits inside the [[Reference:submariner-5xxx-family\|5xxx Submariner family]] with the chronometer 5512, the long-run civilian 5513, and the COMEX 5514.

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	=== Sword hand variants ===		=== Sword hand variants ===

	Third-batch examples carry sword (also called "gladiator" or "plongeur") hands across the ~~lot corpus~~ — wider and more sword-shaped than the standard Mercedes hand and absent from every retail Submariner. Sword hands were factory spec across the entire program Bourn, drsd.com, and the Phillips MilSub-discovery article. drsd.com explicitly notes that some Batch 1 5513 MilSubs "delivered with either sword or Mercedes hands," with the 5517-only batch coming "ONLY with sword hands and full 60-minute bezel." Mercedes-handed MilSubs in collector hands today are mostly service replacements where MOD watchmakers swapped the oxidising sword set after long deployments.		Third-batch examples carry sword (also called "gladiator" or "plongeur") hands across the auction record — wider and more sword-shaped than the standard Mercedes hand and absent from every retail Submariner. Sword hands were factory spec across the entire program Bourn, drsd.com, and the Phillips MilSub-discovery article. drsd.com explicitly notes that some Batch 1 5513 MilSubs "delivered with either sword or Mercedes hands," with the 5517-only batch coming "ONLY with sword hands and full 60-minute bezel." Mercedes-handed MilSubs in collector hands today are mostly service replacements where MOD watchmakers swapped the oxidising sword set after long deployments.

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	\| Phillips Hong Kong \|\| 807 \|\| 2017 \|\| 3,926,923 \|\| Batch 2 5513/5517, c.1974, W10 Army issue 941/79 \|\| HK$ 1,625,000		\| Phillips Hong Kong \|\| 807 \|\| 2017 \|\| 3,926,923 \|\| Batch 2 5513/5517, c.1974, W10 Army issue 941/79 \|\| HK$ 1,625,000
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	\| Sotheby's New York \|\| 238 \|\| 2018 \|\| — \|\| 5517 c.1978, MOD engravings \|\| ~~login-gated~~		\| Sotheby's New York \|\| 238 \|\| 2018 \|\| — \|\| 5517 c.1978, MOD engravings \|\| not publicly listed
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	\| Sotheby's Important Watches II Geneva \|\| 64 \|\| 2023 \|\| 3,926,898 \|\| Batch 2 5513/5517, c.1973, Maxi Mk I pumpkin patina \|\| ~~login-gated~~		\| Sotheby's Important Watches II Geneva \|\| 64 \|\| 2023 \|\| 3,926,898 \|\| Batch 2 5513/5517, c.1973, Maxi Mk I pumpkin patina \|\| not publicly listed
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	\| Bonhams London Fine Watches \|\| 90 \|\| 2018 \|\| 392xxxx \|\| Batch 2 5513/5517, c.1972, military engravings removed, inner caseback I.72 \|\| GBP 72,500 incl. premium		\| Bonhams London Fine Watches \|\| 90 \|\| 2018 \|\| 392xxxx \|\| Batch 2 5513/5517, c.1972, military engravings removed, inner caseback I.72 \|\| GBP 72,500 incl. premium
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	\| Phillips New York "Winning Icons" \|\| 48 \|\| 2017 \|\| — \|\| 5513/5517, 1979, W10 Army Air Corps \|\| ~~login-gated~~		\| Phillips New York "Winning Icons" \|\| 48 \|\| 2017 \|\| — \|\| 5513/5517, 1979, W10 Army Air Corps \|\| not publicly listed
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