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	== Core facts ==		== Core facts ==

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	The green bezel Submariner lineage runs:		The green bezel Submariner lineage runs:

	* [[Reference:16610LV\|16610LV]] ~~'''~~Kermit~~'''~~ (2003–2010): green aluminum bezel, black dial		* [[Reference:16610LV\|16610LV]] Kermit (2003–2010): green aluminum bezel, black dial
	* [[Reference:116610LV\|116610LV]] ~~'''~~Hulk~~'''~~ (2010–2020): green ceramic bezel, green dial		* [[Reference:116610LV\|116610LV]] Hulk (2010–2020): green ceramic bezel, green dial
	* 126610LV ~~'''~~Starbucks~~'''~~ (2020–present): green ceramic bezel, black dial		* 126610LV Starbucks (2020–present): green ceramic bezel, black dial

	The Kermit is the founding member of that run and the only one built on an aluminum bezel. ~~The ceramic Hulk and Starbucks cannot be confused visually with the Kermit, which~~ is ~~exactly why~~ the Kermit ~~carries a~~ distinct authentication problem ~~covered below~~: a 16610 with an aftermarket green insert can pass for a Kermit in ways a steel 16610 never could for a 116610LV.		The Kermit is the founding member of that run and the only one built on an aluminum bezel. That aluminum-only status is also what gives the Kermit its distinct authentication problem: a 16610 with an aftermarket green insert can pass for a Kermit in ways a steel 16610 never could for a 116610LV.

	Colin A. White's ''The Vintage Rolex Field Manual'' records the 16610LV as the first Submariner with enlarged lume indices. The Maxi dial format later became standard on the 116610LN and every Submariner reference after it. The Kermit is the original application.		Colin A. White's ''The Vintage Rolex Field Manual'' records the 16610LV as the first Submariner with enlarged lume indices. The Maxi dial format later became standard on the 116610LN and every Submariner reference after it. The Kermit is the original application.
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	The second change is color. The green aluminum insert was not a single uniform shade across the seven-year run, and Rolex Forum collectors have documented a progressive evolution:		The second change is color. The green aluminum insert was not a single uniform shade across the seven-year run, and Rolex Forum collectors have documented a progressive evolution:

	* ~~'''~~Y-serial (~2003 delivery)~~'''~~: bright lime green with a metallic finish		* Y-serial (~2003 delivery): bright lime green with a metallic finish
	* ~~'''~~F-serial (~2004–2005)~~'''~~: pure green metallic		* F-serial (~2004–2005): pure green metallic
	* ~~'''~~D-serial (~2005–2006)~~'''~~: lighter lime tone		* D-serial (~2005–2006): lighter lime tone
	* ~~'''~~Z-serial (~2006–2007)~~'''~~: lighter green		* Z-serial (~2006–2007): lighter green
	* ~~'''~~M-serial (~2007–2008)~~'''~~: deepest green, non-metallic finish		* M-serial (~2007–2008): deepest green, non-metallic finish

	The overall trajectory moved from a bright, metallic lime green on the earliest examples to a deeper, flatter green on late production. Two original, unfaded Kermit bezels from different production years may look noticeably different, a point that matters both for authentication and for understanding why bezel appearance varies across genuine examples.		The overall trajectory moved from a bright, metallic lime green on the earliest examples to a deeper, flatter green on late production. Two original, unfaded Kermit bezels from different production years may look noticeably different, a point that matters both for authentication and for understanding why bezel appearance varies across genuine examples.
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	JBP (VRF) and Mondani use different classification systems. JBP combines dial and bezel variants into a single numbering scheme (a "Mark" in JBP's system may refer to a dial-and-bezel combination). Mondani classifies dials only. The summary below follows the combined approach, noting bezel type where it is part of the Mark definition.		JBP (VRF) and Mondani use different classification systems. JBP combines dial and bezel variants into a single numbering scheme (a "Mark" in JBP's system may refer to a dial-and-bezel combination). Mondani classifies dials only. The summary below follows the combined approach, noting bezel type where it is part of the Mark definition.

	* ~~'''~~MK I~~'''~~: Oval "O" in ROLEX. "SWISS MADE" at 6 o'clock spans about 5 tick marks. Flat Four bezel. Serials about Y96xxxx to F47xxxx (~September 2003 to June 2005). The earliest production configuration.		* MK I: Oval "O" in ROLEX. "SWISS MADE" at 6 o'clock spans about 5 tick marks. Flat Four bezel. Serials about Y96xxxx to F47xxxx (~September 2003 to June 2005). The earliest production configuration.
	* ~~'''~~MK II~~'''~~: Transitional. Variations in "O" shape and "R" positioning distinguish it from MK I. Still paired with Flat Four bezel. Limited serial window.		* MK II: Transitional. Variations in "O" shape and "R" positioning distinguish it from MK I. Still paired with Flat Four bezel. Limited serial window.
	* ~~'''~~MK III~~'''~~: Further transitional variation. Subtle differences in letterforms from MK II. Still Flat Four bezel era.		* MK III: Further transitional variation. Subtle differences in letterforms from MK II. Still Flat Four bezel era.
	* ~~'''~~MK IV~~'''~~: Oval "O" in ROLEX. The "R" in "Oyster" sits directly under the right foot of the "R" in "Rolex." "SWISS MADE" spans about 3 tick marks. Pointed Four bezel. Appears from about July 2005 onward.		* MK IV: Oval "O" in ROLEX. The "R" in "Oyster" sits directly under the right foot of the "R" in "Rolex." "SWISS MADE" spans about 3 tick marks. Pointed Four bezel. Appears from about July 2005 onward.
	* ~~'''~~MK V~~'''~~: Round "O" in ROLEX (a visible change from the earlier oval). Variations in "R" positioning and minute marker details distinguish it from MK IV.		* MK V: Round "O" in ROLEX (a visible change from the earlier oval). Variations in "R" positioning and minute marker details distinguish it from MK IV.
	* ~~'''~~MK VI~~'''~~: Round "O." Further variation in "R" positioning and marker details from MK V.		* MK VI: Round "O." Further variation in "R" positioning and marker details from MK V.
	* ~~'''~~MK VII~~'''~~ (final): Round "O" in ROLEX. Serial number engraved on the inner rehaut, the defining feature that separates MK VII from all earlier marks. Appears from about August 2008 onward and runs through end of production.		* MK VII (final): Round "O" in ROLEX. Serial number engraved on the inner rehaut, the defining feature that separates MK VII from all earlier marks. Appears from about August 2008 onward and runs through end of production.

	The progression from MK I through MK VII tracks the full production run. Early marks (MK I especially) carry the strongest collector premiums. MK VII, with its rehaut engraving, is the easiest to identify and represents the final production specification.		The progression from MK I through MK VII tracks the full production run. Early marks (MK I especially) carry the strongest collector premiums. MK VII, with its rehaut engraving, is the easiest to identify and represents the final production specification.
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	=== Y-serial authenticity verification ===		=== Y-serial authenticity verification ===

	The Y-serial Kermit is the most collectible tier and the most scrutinized. ~~The timeline is covered in "First delivery and early serials" above; a~~ Y serial paired with a 2003 purchase date is the expected pattern, not an anomaly.		The Y-serial Kermit is the most collectible tier and the most scrutinized. A Y serial paired with a 2003 purchase date is the expected pattern, not an anomaly: Rolex held earlier-numbered movements for the anniversary release.

	One specific fraud vector matters here. A Y-serial watch with a worn or service-replaced bezel warrants close examination, since the Y serial could come from a legitimate early movement or could mark a case swap. The check list runs caseback engraved 16610LV with Y-range serial, matching movement serial, original green bezel with natural aging, and ideally a full set confirming 2003 purchase. A single element out of alignment may be innocent; each gap requires its own explanation.		One specific fraud vector matters here. A Y-serial watch with a worn or service-replaced bezel warrants close examination, since the Y serial could come from a legitimate early movement or could mark a case swap. The check list runs caseback engraved 16610LV with Y-range serial, matching movement serial, original green bezel with natural aging, and ideally a full set confirming 2003 purchase. A single element out of alignment may be innocent; each gap requires its own explanation.